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I swear, ~~every time~~ most of the time I see someone being particularly rude, ignorant, and inappropriate on a post (usually political in origin, or they swing it to being political) I click on their profile and see it has been created that same day.

They are only there to sow discord. Only to piss people off. Idk if we can just report them (for what?) but I'd like to try exposing them before responding and interacting..

I am guilty of gobbling up the bait. I've started looking at profiles of people that piss me off exceptionally and noticed they're burner bot loser accounts.

I guess i just want to say I've noticed it!

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Voyager has a setting to show a baby emoji next to the name of a user if their account is less than a month old and an account age. Probably one of the best features I've ever seen for immediately recognizing troll accounts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

nice. would love something like that on a web interface.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Voyager started as a progressive web app. vger.app. I prefer it to Lemmy’s interface even on computer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I love that he called it "vger"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is voyager an app like Sync?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yes, and no ads either.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

There's already an issue on lemmy-ui for it.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Memba reddit comments circa 2016 election? I memba.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Oh me too! I ‘memba!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It’s already getting like that over there. That’s why I’m here now. The last straw was a “Reddit Recommendation” that I join r/InternationalNews. I took a look around, and it was a hotbed of anti-Israel and anti-America content. There was the video of the university detonation from January 20th, posted that day and pinned to the top. When I commented on the date and provided the source, I was downvoted to oblivion, and eventually banned.

The sub was #7 under recommended news subreddits.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Being anti-Israel is based.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The government, not the citizens, as per usual.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yep, Israel is not Jews, and Jews are not Israel.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're not going to have much of a better time here if you like Israel and aren't critical of the US. Lemmy is full of socialists lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I’m educated enough on the history of the history of the conflict to know nothing about it is simple to resolve. The only strong opinions I have are Netanyahu =/= Israel and Hamas =/= Palestine, and hatred for an entire group of people is racist and ignorant.

The government’s job is to represent me. As a US citizen, it’s my job to criticize them when they don’t. I owe them no loyalty. They owe me representation.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Recommended by who though? Spez, that's who. Race-baiting works to increase "engagement" e.g. clicks and comments, thus it continues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

fuck u/spez

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Use the report button when you see those, it's the quickest way for them to be noticed by mods and admins.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)

People don't report shit, then complain stuff goes unmoderated.

Like, you don't have to report every single comment a troll makes, but at least report one so a mod looks at it.

Edit:

Here's a good example. An account I have blocked replied to me. If they go into a sub I moderate and start acting like a jackass, I'll never know because I have them blocked.

The only way I'd see it, is if someone reported it.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The whole of Lemmy is, in general, severely under-moderated.

Part of it is personnel (being a moderator is a crappy job and we don’t have the people to do it) but it’s also ideological. A lot of people here believe that allowing disruptive speech is better than suppressing expression.

That’s a choice and we live with the consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

100%. I've been saying it over and over. It's election season on the internet, division aplenty.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Assholes are everywhere, but yeah, it's been happening slowly but surely ever since lemmy has gained more users (which makes sense).

I'd really like to know the ratio of assholes to regular people out of every 100 people 😂

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

An ever increasing ratio because assholes drive out non assholes.

Dead Sea effect in action.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Yes, Im also glad im not the only one who noticed this. But it also seems to be they disapper after a few days too, maybe instance mods banned them or they just got bored.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I think I'm seeing something different, although also synthetic in nature.

It seems like companies or brands are in here (and probably on any social media) actively controlling the message about their brand. People make a post or comment about a specific thing (or person) and you get pre-packages responses, similar in nature and argument.

It makes you feel like it's tin foil hat time, but I've seen different accounts proporting the same exact experiences about a product, which are super specific in nature.

I could see that being a part of a company trying to actively "control the message," but it makes you question the authenticity of a lot of posts or arguments. Is that person really standing up for this thing with a questionable history, or are they a paid shill?

What would be a safe space from this though? A forum small enough to stay under the radar? I enjoy larger platforms like this because of the diversity in content and viewpoints, but not if it's a haven for corporate messaging or agencies controlling a narrative.

Am I joining the tin foil hat club here, or has anyone else seen similar?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I guess I'm lucky. I must subscribe to more or less of an echo chamber. Fuck trolls.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You shouldn't have to do a fucking DOD level background check on someone typing shit on the internet...

Prolly lots of bots...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I just blocked a user, because I just kept seeing their name pop up and commenting on 'everything'

Account created 9 months ago with 15000+ Comments That's like 60 comments a day.

Bot or not, someone with that many comments a day needs to go outside and experience life before posting their opinion on fucking everything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Was it Flying Squid? I see them comment multiple times in nearly every thread I'm in.

EDIT: 30,000 comments in 10 months. Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Flying squid was the guy with health issues that went to Mayo to try to get help. Spent like two weeks just waiting for appointments. On his last day there he got some good news on a diagnosis. When he came to share it people had shit all over him. We never got to find out what happened.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Or Viking Hippie, or some of the other names we've seen everywhere. Reminds me of maxwellhill on reddit. I don't know how someone can read that post and then come to any other conclusion than Ghislane Maxwell was maxwellhill, but when you search maxwellhill, the articles are all refuting it while not touching on many or any of the commonalities in that thread.

Guess we'll know when we start seeing the same few names pop up as mods for top communities.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I might be able to do 60 in a day but not consistantly over 9 months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What’s even funnier (sadder let’s be honest), is some of them are memed like they are some god in some of these communities they spam relentlessly.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Part of the attraction of this place is that it is like things used to be for the most part. Freedom of expression has always been a double edged sword that all of us have to be responsible for. When you start asking others to police an environment, youre giving up that freedom not just for those you find distasteful but for yourself as well. If you simply excercise due diligence in your consumption, you can easily learn what is comfortably digestible and what will give you a heart attack

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, and not just in comments, but occasionally when you sort by new, the same one loser (they use either the same pfp or a name with a sequential year or something, I can't find them in my blocked list, those accounts must have been purged) will post extremely racist or transphobic shit, almost like they want to get banned on sight to reinforce their delusions of persecution). There have also been targeted attacks on the autism communities with someone just posting the r slur over and over again. Report and block is the only thing to do really.

Either way, this is typical of any even moderately progressive space, but the more radical you go, the more bigots and trolls will come to smear their shit all over the space, it's an inevitable result of the overinflated sense of entitlement that comes with privilege.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

That's why huge instances are bad, they can't moderate all those users (I am on a bigger instance myself tho don't judge me).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

We can expect this with any system that grows in size, becomes popular right? I don’t know the science behind it, but communities over a certain size naturally create subcommunities or attract partisans, antagonists, anarchists with a tendency to troll for fun. It’s the way of things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All they want is attention. I simply don’t give them the satisfaction of a response. They get bored and move on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do they just want attention? Or are they malicious actors from those that consider Lemmy competition?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

They're malicious actors, but reddit is just as bad right now. It'll die down to more organic hate after the elections.

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