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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I can recommend a minty flavored alternative if you're sick of it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Green Ubuntu is Best Ubuntu

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I prefer some POP in my ubuntu, but green is flavorful.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

A fresh breath of minty cinnamon, mate?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Btw I have no idea why they want to mix Mint with Cinnamon, must taste ugly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Literally what I'm chewing right now. Its pretty okay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I should do a "sorting DEs by their taste" meme

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, once you crunch down the edges its pretty good. Make sure to use optical rather than solid state tho.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I recommend Debian. Why go downstream when you can go upstream?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why just now? Meanwhile, all Debian packages on their apt repos are reviewed and maintained by Debian.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I would imagine the recent xz backdoor discovery spooked them a bit. So now they are going to check things.

We shall see if it continues or not.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

It was probably the wave of phishing apps that scared them tbh

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

This predates that discovery.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (13 children)

No. They will likely still use release tarballs

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago

wanst that the whole damn (stated) point of making it proprietary?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How is that not a security theater? , you just need to :

  • publish a good snap
  • change it to malware after it is approved
  • profit

The extra cost added to override this is fairly small, i don't think it will help.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

At least this prevents impersonation of well-known publishers or their software. Maybe all changes to metadata like the description should require a manual review even for established packages.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

It always takes a disaster before corporations act.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Only took them 6 years of malware

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

I've heard all the arguments about how these new packaging formats are supposed to make things easy for developers and for users with different use cases than my own (apparently), but I will continue to avoid them until they have further matured. I'm relieved that this is still possible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The idea is good I think but the implementation has only ever caused me problems and seems to have a bunch of frustrating edge cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've been using snaps for a few years now and while they still could use some improvements, the snaps I'm currently using seem to be fairly indistinguishable from deb-based packaging thanks to bug fixes they have done over the years. I think the idea of containerized applications is a good one, I think it actually can be safer. Performance is also fine for me with snap applications even like Firefox snap startup speed, although I'm using an R9 5900x and Gen 4 M2 NVMe SSD so maybe that's why, or maybe they really have improved the snap software and it is just as fast now for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've had to swap Firefox on my laptop for the deb package, the snap took like 5sec to open, whereas the deb opens instantly. Other than that, i don't see much of a difference, but i run into sandboxing issues quite often (same with flatpak though)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The problem for me is portability. Flatpak, Snap, Appimage, docker, podman, lxc, they all do the same thing, but they’re splitting the market into “servers” and “desktops”.

We need a portable container runtime we can build from a compose file, run cli or gui apps, and migrate to a server with web app capability displaying the UI. There are too many build targets, and too much virtual market segmentation.

Nix tries to solve the issue, but the problem is you have to use Nix.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Maybe adding a proprietary *layer to an open-source OS was a bad idea (for end users)?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have this unpopular thought: If I had to choose between Canonical's Snap Store and Apple App Store...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

This

"Neither" is a valid choice, we don't have to use one or the other

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This

"Neither" is a valid choice, we don't have to use one or the other

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

They should have been doing this from the start.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just remove the crypto bullshit apps and 99% of the problems will go away.

And maybe release the SnapStore code so they can all scam each other over there.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Then I'll be on the last deb until it no longer works. I'm not going down the proprietary snap route.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad to see that teststeve5 passed the test!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you use snaps with autofs/NFS yet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Or sandbox Snap apps on systems without the Ubuntu Apparmor patches or even using SELinux?

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