So who do they think they're going to vote for? Trump has also continually vowed his support of Israel and wouldn't have done anything different (except maybe sending even more weapons to them), while at the same time not supporting Ukraine at all.
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They probably won't vote.
while at the same time not supporting Ukraine at all.
The war in Ukraine is lost.
Funny, that's what you people said when Russia invaded two years ago.
Yeah, because short of escalating to WWIII the war was lost from the jump. Is being right about that for two years a bad thing? Is losing two years and a ton of casualties later worth anything?
No, I'm saying it because the front line is collapsing as we speak. I'm not a Putin-stan lol. I'd be persecuted in Russia.
Much of that was because the US House of Representatives was sitting on its ass for the past how many months? There have been widespread reports of Ukraine rationing ammunition, effectively forcing them to cede ground. The recent passage of aid will start getting basic supplies in quickly. Don't write them off yet.
A bigger reason is that their manpower is depleted from so many dead. Not to mention various defensive lines not getting built.
But at the same time, a lot of those deaths and shattered defensive lines were because of a lack of supplies. I'm not going to make any claims on how much, but when the Russians are firing 5 shells for every 1 shell the Ukrainians fire off, that changes things.
Oh yeah I certainly agree. It definitely matters a lot. I just don't the west has the industrial capacity currently to match that rate. Most of the arms were from deep, old, stockpiles, not fresh production. There'd need to be a pretty big reindustrialization push to get anywhere close.
From what I understand, the West has specialized more in precision ammunition, whereas Russia leans far more on dumb bombs. The industrial capacity is there, but the specific capacity needs adjusting. The West is seeing the first war in a long time involving a near-peer adversary running itself as a war economy, so this is also about getting production lines and supply chains up to the task. During WW2, the US was involved in production on the side of the allies via the Lend-Lease Act before it officially entered the war, so there was time for it to specialize. Not that I am in favor of a world war or escalation, but I don't think it's good to be a sitting duck.
With all due respect, you don't understand shit.
If this war is purely dependent on the US supplying arms and funds to Ukraine, then it's a lost war or at best just a proxy war.
Erg that sucks... I've seen some posts about Russia's new offense but haven't had the chance to look into what's really happening. Guess I should find some time (not that my knowledge will change anything, of course).
While you might not agree with everything on our instance, the weekly news threads are pretty good at collating news and sources as things happen. It’s a decent thing to browse at least.
No?
And we are still right.
They're going to vote for somebody who is not open about the fact that they are doing a genocide. if that's too high of a bar for dems to clear that is dems problem and nobody else.
"You have tonvote for biden or trumpnwill bimb the rubble" is not an effective campaign strategy. They've concentrated the entire population into rafah and now they're moving into rafah, exactly like every single person criticizing Biden has been screaming they'll do since Biden started quadruppling down on unconditional support.
Trump might actually not be worse for Palestine because at this rate by next January there won't be anybody left to genocide.
Yeah man, we just gotta vote for the right guy and we can fix things
Just one more vote, just one more president, just one more and then we can vote for someone less evil than last time I promise bro
If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Sometimes we have a chance to vote on something that will improve things, but mostly we're lucky if the best we can do is vote to keep things from getting any worse.
Yeah you're right, I WILL vote for enhanced genocide with a side of pretending to be less fascist! Blue No matter who!
but mostly we're lucky if the best we can do is vote to keep things from getting any worse.
This is EXACTLY WHY things KEEP GETTING WORSE
YOU let them. We all keep letting them, by participating in their rigged system. Year after year they do the same song and dance and we move further from any real change, until people like you are desperate for "things to just not get worse" Can't you see?
You're in an abusive relationship and too afraid to leave your abuser, that's fine who can blame you for being afraid, but you should at least know what you're really doing rather than deluding yourself.
You guys have one chord and think it’s a song.
You have one ass and pretend it's a mouth
We keep being right about these things and it is melting your brains.
Because things keep getting worse and Democrats keep running do-nothing losers
There is never a counterargument and you were no exception.
It would be a lot easier for Democrats to stop supporting Israel if Trump was the one bankrolling the genocide.
Same way they opposed Trumps immigration policy as much as they could but let Biden silently do the exact same thing.
I honestly don't believe that for a minute. You've got people who support Israel because that's what they've been taught to do their whole life, and then you have people actually paying attention to what's been going on and getting called antisemitic for calling out the genocide. Unfortunately the people who are unwilling to change their ways far outnumber the people who care.
It wouldn't cause all Democrats to flip on Israel, but a lot of Democrats are only supporting Israel because of inertia. Supporting Israel is just normal, so that's what they do. If Trump were president it would force them to rethink how "normal" their support actually is.
You're underestimating how much Democrats hate Trump. If anything could force them to rethink anything it's agreeing with him.
Heh maybe so, but is it really worth the risk of the damage Trump would do if he were in office again? Judging by your nick, I'm sure you're aware of all the harm he's done to the LGBT+ community?
What I'm also aware of is the fascist march against queer folk in the US has been pushing forward unabated under Biden. No matter who wins we'll probably see the first bans on changing gender on birth certificates, we'll probably see a challenge to gay marriage Court jurisprudence, and we'll probably see hate crimes against us continue to rise to new horrible heights.
Under Trump Dems were out in the streets, but Under Biden all the Dems just sit at home and don't do anything about it. Dems only care about queer folk (and Black people and religious minorities and immigrants) when it's politically convenient.
Not in my name.
Cornel West is the best option available, the united states NEEDS an intellectual, philosopher, and social critic in office. It's been an exceptional shit show more recently. Voting in someone with the ability to actually contemplate the consequences of their actions and not just listen to those with the most money is severely needed to get back on the path to being a functional country.
True enough, but until we get some sort of ranked-choice voting, there's no chance of a 3rd party candidate being more than a minor blip in the voting numbers.
You could also recognize that voting is a rigged process and is in no way the limit of political action. You can then choose to do things that are better than using bad game theory to try to get people to vote for a genocide.
So your suggestion is to keep supporting the same people for ever no matter what they do.
How could that possibly lead to anything changing. You are explicitly sending the message "well keep supporting you no matter what so please do what we want even though it won't make any difference to you if you dont."
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Hmmmm maybe, and just throwing this out there, maybe if they want to win they could stop doing a genocide. It feels like that's what people are saying here. Just a thought, probably nothing
the process is blessed.
the process has lead to a genocide.
trust the process.
I've been seeing some complaints about the methodology of this poll, there is one good write-up presented here. Basically what it comes down to is that the New York Times not only cherry-picked from their own data, but they also polled heavily from Conservative voters rather than getting averages based on the demographics of each state.
It makes better headlines than the reality (both candidates are pretty evenly matched in each of the swing states with no clear winner), but this information is pretty much worthless other than hopefully getting more people to vote this year.
According to the Times, Trump is leading Biden in 5 out of 6 battleground states—and there goes the election, our democracy and the world!
Don't forget the known universe! He definitely wouldn't be exactly like the president they have now but more rude.
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