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Did you know? Despite claiming to block all cross-site cookies out of the box, Firefox automatically allows Google to use them in your browser should you log in to one of their services.

The browser only lets you know about this once it happens, and it's on you to notice the permissions icon appearing in the URL bar. There is a link to a paragraph on a help page explaining this behaviour, but it seemingly goes unmentioned pretty much everywhere else on the internet.

This surprised me, especially considering Firefox's stance on privacy. I was even more surprised that this is done without consent. If this is for usability, Firefox should at least warn the user before this happens.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Take it you didn't click "learn more"?

To sign into YouTube, you need to sign into Google.Com. that's the cross site script. Nothing scary, or unexpected.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's with the influx of anti Firefox posts here? Really weird. Especially since yes everything is in their learn more stuff.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is a bit odd that there’s an influx of anti Firefox and AMD stuff after Google and Intel were in the news for major things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah feels a bit intentional

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People have been up in arms for every new "flavor of the month" browser that boasts better security, or some new privacy thing, and Firefox not offering it. Also, the freakout about Mozilla enabling "ad-tracking" was wildly misunderstood and overblown by the privacy nuts, but started a slew of these "WELLFFDIDTHISTHINGBLETRRGGHWAAAHHHHHHH"

It's all overblown in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"flavor of the month" browser

"flavor of the month" ~browser~ Chromium

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well I would have just said Chromium then, but that's not what I said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think they meant that they are chromium based.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you've lost your entire user base except the privacy nuts, you should be very careful about your messaging because they're your only demographic left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It's not clear who you are referring to. Privacy nuts seem to hate every browser that exists at the moment. I even see people pissed an Librewolf for one thing or another.

Fact of the matter is that the browser is less the problem, and the contents they consume are, yet people are unwilling to just stop interacting with the sites that cause their concerns. There's no way to win with everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

But that's one of the most dangerous trackers afaik. There should at least be an option to disable it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

the moment I saw login im like um yeah I bet same with microsoft or any other login that is across. wait for it. sites. login to outlook.com and then go to 0365

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

If they wouldn't allow this, signing into YouTube wouldn't work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't log into their services.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Don't visit the websites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

If you access Google sites only in a special Firefox container, that still isolates your Google cookies from the rest of your tabs? Or does it just add a “you don’t get this from me” flag when it gives Google your user cookie, so it can pretend to not recognise you as it adds your web-browsing history to your ad-targeting profile (flagged appropriately as to keep it deniable, of course)?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So google is a privacy nightmare. Google pays firefox. There’s not a lot more dots to connect here. How is anyone surprised at things like this?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know why you're getting downvotes.

All of the incentives line up. That's why you always examine incentives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Not sure. It’s unverified speculation. People are weirdly attached to software these days. My answer to problems like these is to find something else. Tor seems decent.