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[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago (27 children)

If you're competing against steam, you need to make your experience as good or better than steam.

From what people tell me, because I don't have it myself, the epic game store is really rough around the edges not a fun experience.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It still has no review system.

They still have no Linux version.

They still have many bugs in the store.

It... its a mess

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, how can you run a digital storefront in this day and age and not let people post reviews? I read a bunch of those on steam before I buy most of my games.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It took them years to implement a shopping cart. A basic feature that literally every online shop has had since forever.

They are not good at e-commerce.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know those Electron apps that technically look like a piece of native software, but feel like streaming a web page through an ungodly slow VPN?

That's Epic.

It's slow, clunky, missing features, and it simply feels like some random store selling you games - you don't feel like something stable that will exist in 5 years when you want to download them again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Steam runs on Chromium too. I haven't used Epic so I can't compare the two, but it's one of the reasons that Steam can be clunky sometimes too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Steam runs on Chromium too

The store, yes. Steam Input, Proton, the hook for filesystem save writes, the overlay, and so many more important features, do not.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is very common among big tech companies and we should start treating it as what it is, a scam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A scam for whom? My epic library is full of games that they literally gave away for free. I didn't pay for any of them. Hard to see how I'm being scammed. I'm not surprised that it's a shitty business model though, and I suppose their investors could argue they're being scammed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They subsidizing in hopes they can gain monopolistic marketshare.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How does them giving free games have anything to do with their desire for a "monopolistic" market share? Couldn't they just do the same if they wanted any market share?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Because if you have to subdize to get marketshare then how are you going to maintain that marketshare once you stop subsidizing?

This has been the play for the last decade of cheap VC debt in tech. Wework, Uber, etc all these businesses operate at a loss in the hopes they can someday get a monopoly. That's the explicitly stated business goal or Uber!

It's not sustainable. It's stupid and the bill will come due eventually.

Games as an industry is impossible to make money in unless you're a platform owner. That's just how it is. The 1983 game industry crash and Nintendo resurrection showed that. It's just repeating the cycle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This is literally how amazon works.

They operated at a big loss until people were only using their platform and then hiked prices.

They literally price undercut up and coming websites by a ridiculous margin (20-30% sometimes) subsidized by their rich benefactor loans until they were driven out of business and then jacked up their prices to make profit.

The whole game is getting people using your platform as exclusively as possible and then return to normal prices once you gave enough market share.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why. I own about 80 games from Epic. I didn't pay a dime tough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Oh wow I thought I was the only one.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Good reason to shut it down then. No one needs their crap anyway.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

That's what you get for bringing platform game exclusivity to the PC, trash!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait..they sell games, too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Is it "selling" if nobody's buying?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just bought the only game I'll likely ever buy on EGS. It was Alan Wake 2. Being published by Epic, it will unlikely ever be anywhere else until EGS shuts down.

My justifications are as follows: I love the developer and want to support them.

That's it. The experience was.. fine, but far from streamlined. The Epic achievement system is terrible. Imagine walking around in a horror game, immersed in the atmosphere, then a loud cheery mobile app chime blaps through your headphones and a giant banner splatters across the top of your screen announcing your achievement totally jarring you out of the atmosphere.

Then, imagine you find out you can turn on a 'do not disturb' mode by pressing shift+f3, then imagine you need to turn it on every time you launch the game. That's the Epic Games Store experience in a nutshell.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

L tbh. They don't even have good regional pricing unlike Steam.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Isn't it just first steps of enshittification? Hardly anything shocking.

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