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I am looking to move on from spotify, what music streaming service pays the artists the best while still having a large library.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

None of them. Buy music, don't rent access to it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you're talking about artists under labels, the real way to support them is go to their shows. They get very few proceeds from music purchases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shut the fuck up Ticketmaster

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Go to a small venue and sneak in. Give them a $20 in their tip jar. Buy their expensive official tee shirt.

If they're big enough to run fans through ticketmaster, they're not going to go hungry if you pirate and just introduce friends to their music.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (8 children)

that would be so expensive no? to buy thousands of songs? and I'd have to buy an album/ track to listen, what if I don't end up liking it?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Please be realistic, who does that in this day and age?

I only know two sides (in the bigger scheme) people who rent it and people who pirate it.

In all kinds of tech media that exists the disc music are the ones that amazes me the most because they still have their spot in certain stores.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I do have a few friends who love collecting vinyl. They're reasonably established in their careers, really seem to love rooting around record shops whenever we travel and have amazing collections that take up a chunk of their living space...

But basically, I agree with you. Those collector friends are definitely the very rare exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I pirate music, but I also purchase most things I end up enjoying as long as it’s reasonably available

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Heaps of people still buy music, sales still account for around half of music revenue.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unless the artist self published it, even buying physical media doesn't give the actual artist much. If you want to support the actual artist, you go to live shows (with tickets bought at the door and not through Ticketmaster) as well as buying the merch they sell at those events. More of those sales go to the bands. Sometimes even 100% of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Do both. Spotify to gain access, buying it to maintain access in perpetuity. I have about 60 or so vinyl albums that I would like my kids to hear in 10 years or so, and I'm hopeful they'll say hey vinyl, cool (it won't happen). But at the end of the day, I've picked out a number of albums that I want to carry into the future with me, and some of those I discovered through my Spotify subscription.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Keeping a local library on your phone and computer.

No need to worry about if a streaming service changes anything, not pepetual bulls just to listen to music

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I generally do this for all my media, but I will never do this for music, there's just such a huge lack of discoverability. Are you just never seeking out new music on the fly?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

https://www.music-map.com

Oh, you like Cattle Decapitation? Then you might like Skinless, Guttural Secrete, Devourment, Pig Destroyer, Rivers of Nihil...

It's not good with really new artists (e.g., The Anchoret, Temic), and artists that have had significant shifts over their careers might give you overly broad results. But it gives you some starting points.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do love PlexAmp, I need a much bigger storage capacity on my phone these days because of all the bangers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

That's fair, I have about 720 songs bought on my iPhone, and plenty more downloaded from remix64.com in VLC

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think Apple Music and Tidal pay the most per stream, but Tidal has a smaller library than Spotify. It might be different now so not sure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Anecdotal, I've not actually had a lot of instances (if any) of Spotify having something but Tidal not, usually find albums that I'm interested in from band camp no problem and if it's missing its missing on both. Sound quality is noticeably higher which is the reason I tend to prefer, the app has gotten better in my experience

I have all my digital copies on my NAS with jellyfin to stream them as well, sometimes it's just easier to stream off tidal or Spotify though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

With Tidal hell yeah!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I like Qobuz. I find it really good quality through my home hifi and I can purchase from their site too. There is a bundle where you get discounts on the purchase with the sub. Music is really important to me so this is the only thing I sub too.

One of the big benefits for me is that it offers gapless playback. Also I find it the "best" quality and for context I am streaming through a Cambridge CXN V2 into a Musical Fidelity M6si and into a pair of Kef ls50's with a couple of REL subs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Napster pays the most to the owners of the recording as far as I recall

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been trying it because I wanted to support the artists more than Spotify, but the app is… not very good in my experience. :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same here. The app is so ass and the recommendations are straight garbage too.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Innertune is nice too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

does bandcamp suit you?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I strongly recommend Apple Music. It has one of the largest libraries and pays better than YouTube, Amazon, or Spotify.

Apple Music is also platform agnostic; there’s even a browser version now. Also, you can download music and choose the quality. It’s far less “algorithm-y,” which I prefer.

Tidal and Qobuz do pay out more, but have much smaller libraries. I don’t personally like them much. The apps feel subpar.

YouTube and Amazon are straight up bad experiences for me. If this was back in 2013, I’d actually have recommended Google Play Music. RIP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Apple music on android is so bad that I didn't even wait for my premium trial to end to cancel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What device? I’ve only used it on the Samsung S22 Ultra and the Pixel 7. IMO was a fantastic experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Device doesn't matter, the app sucks. It doesn't even have volume normalization. You just get hit with a sound blast out of nowhere because you had to turn it up to hear the previous song.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love Tidal + Plex. I already had a Plex server set up, but the integration with tidal is great. Good music quality, pays the artists well, and no gaps in the library that aren't also there in the other services. When you add Plex you can then fill in those gaps with your own music files.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I've recently started hosting my music on Jellyfin and using the symfonium app for android. Symfonium is pretty nice and handles offline files well, plus it has a ton of hosting options including Plex, even some experimental options like dropbox

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Youtube music after you uploaded your personal library there, it was how I used play music before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Airsonic or plexamp

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