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I'm a nurse and reddit has a nursing subreddit I like to contribute to because they give good advice regarding my job, how to deal with arrogant doctors, bitchy coworkers... they know things a regular user in a generic channel couldn't answer, because they don't know the job.

I think asking in a channel like this for nursing advice doesn't make much sense, because this is not a nursing specific channel.

Something similar happens to my workplace questions: there is an antiwork lemmy, but the one in reddit is much larger and they also have a work community, and so far I haven't found anything like that on lemmy.

Another issue is size: For some problems, like violence in the hospital I need speedy advice and I get that faster when the communities are larger. Reddit is larger.

Simply replying 'we don't monetize' while true and one reason why I turned to lemmy and don't use reddit as much now, is not convincing enough for my particular case.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why not use both? I still use Reddit for game communities that haven’t developed on lemmy. Right now Lemmy is useful for different things, though I hope it continues to grow.

I deleted the Reddit app so I’m forced to use the browser version of Reddit which is fucking awful and keeps my Reddit time to a minimum.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago

Lemmy will grow, but for right now it does not meet every need. Perhaps it never will. Especially with lives and livelihoods on the line, you must do whatever works best for you, so please do not feel guilty.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Relatively new Lemmy user here, longtime reddit user. I saw a comment last week that sums this up. Lemmy just hasn't yet reached the critical mass to have spawned the niche groups that reddit has; certainly not with the activity they have.

I suspect that, for a while, many of us will keep one foot in reddit for those niche communities. In the meantine, we can try to foster similar commities in Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Read my post about how reddit went from just 85,000 users in 2008 to 500 million active users in 2023: https://old.lemmy.ca/post/2780188. Reddit didn't grow overnight. It took 15 years to grow to where it is now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Lemmy problem is lurkers and not the number of user in general. It's not normal to have communities with over 1000 followers where only admins are posting and commenting

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

that's pretty common on reddit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Reddit is the same. Nevermind the lurkers, just have fun with the people who post and comment

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel you. I've been pretty much the only poster 1-3 times a day for months trying to keep the group going.

I'd love just one other person who could post maybe 3 times a week to take the pressure off a little.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We need to find other owls enthusiasts!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I look at the Lemmy.World Communities page, and I'm on the front page sorted by Users/Month. I'm bordered by what I would consider some very big groups, and I just think, am I doing good or is Lemmy doing that bad outside a few major players?

It feels like a busy place to me, because I'm putting the work in. But when I go to some of the things I'd think would be popular, they come up blank for Top 6 Hours. Even c/Dogs, when I made a crosspost there the other day didnt have anything for the day. I expect that to be way busier than SuperbOwl. I used to hang at Beehaw for the positive vibes, but when I would sort by Local, there's be like 10 posts with no comments for the day, so I stopped signing on.

I really want this to work. I like the smaller setting, I like recognizing the names of the regular commentors, but a channel can't be a one person show forever. I just feel it would get stale. I feel it still has the potential though. I feel my activity and comments per subscriber is much better than the Reddit version. They have 435000 subs and their upvote averages and comments per thread are not proportionately bigger than what I get with 2400.

I never posted at Reddit because I felt I couldnt stand out among millions of users. It isn't hard to post, just share something you like. I do some in depth posts and will research stuff and all that, but still many posts are, hey, here's a cool photo. People just have to step up if they want this place to stay around. It isn't hard, it isn't more time consuming than just scrolling through everything. Just try it and be the change you want to see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Out of these 1000 followers, how many are still active? The 99-9-1 rule is probably valid here too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

What I meant is that 990 of those 1000 followers don't visit Lemmy anymore you can't expect them to post

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You're being generous. I'm part of a lot of communities that are clearly not being moderated.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My take, be pragmatic. I still go to my city and career subreddit because that's where I get my city news and career advice. And I'm in Lemmy because it really does feel like the Reddit of 2008-2014 and I love it here.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

I don't think you need to leave Reddit. The whole Spez debacle was frustrating, but Reddit just has so many more specific niches. I use Lemmy for most things now, but I use Reddit occasionally for my specific niche subs like that. It's ok.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

I try to avoid Reddit, but there are definitely niche communities and conversations I miss. I still poke my head into those specific communities at Reddit now and again, but don’t engage in them much anymore.

At the same time, I try to spark those same conversations over here.

No reason we can’t do both!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm helping with a handful of healthcare communities here and... I agree! Career communities are helpful and the health career communities on Reddit are especially so. They're well moderated and the discussions are productive. As much planning and care we might put into the Lemmy ones, it will take time to get that kind of crowd sourced support.

More on that: [email protected] is being run as a parallel community for r/medicine, and we're in communication with the mods there. We haven't announced things in a big way yet (everyone got busy), but the goal was for this very situation

Right now my advice is to use both

  • Post on Lemmy as you can, and post to Reddit for the time sensitive / important stuff
  • Read feeds from both

You can also see fediverse medical community hub for other healthcare related spaces. I have some new ones to add, which I'll do soon (again, got busy)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

There is a good radiology community here. Which means the medical community you are looking for is here.

You can always start the community your looking which will be slow but will grow. Just becareful how you mention it on reddit as I've heard people get banned for promoting lemmy on reddit.

I would like to see more lemmy posts out in the wild. Mostly its reddit links that popup on searches

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I'll tell you my approach and you can use it for inspiration, but keep in mind everyone is different.

I deleted the Reddit app, but still use Reddit sometimes through the browser. This caused me to use Reddit far less, and primarily use lemmy unless what I need is not found on lemmy.

Sometimes what I need is info from a specific community like you mentioned. For example, I am Arab, and there's very few Arabs on lemmy.

In your case, Reddit might be less rare than me. It might be more practical for you to use both apps, or maybe just not use lemmy at all. It all depends on your priorities and what you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Don't hamstring your career over this.

The reason Spez's bullshit is tragic is because reddit is extremely useful. Use the technology that benefits your job the most.

I vomit poison on Adobe and their horrible subscription model. But if my boss says we're using photoshop then I'm 100% onboard, all-in. Because jobs and careers are dynamically important and poverty is dynamically corrosive.

Don't overthink it. If reddit is professionally useful, nobody else's opinion matters. You can contribute to other platforms, but not at the cost of your career or your patients or colleagues.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Your first problem isn’t using Reddit. It’s asking others for their opinion on whether or not you should.

If you need to use Reddit, that’s your justification. Don’t worry about what people here think.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Nah, if you want to use Reddit, go ahead and use Reddit.

Fediverse is slowly becoming Reddit 1.5 anyways - I actually went back to Reddit after not being able to find a few work- and hobby-related communities on the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Ya I've got the same issue, I really miss the expansive discussions in the comment sections and niche communities, I think over time they'll pop up. Lemmy is great but still has lots of growing up to do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Naturally, Lemmy as it is. It cannot fulfill everyone's needs.

I'm in the same boat, I left Reddit as soon as that crap happened but I still went back because there's some niche that's not at the present in Lemmy sadly.

But I do try other options before Reddit. You could try and look around but don't feel guilty if you resort to Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

nobody's judging, I sometimes shamelessly click on some reddit links in google results, I just try to not interact, i don't think it's a shame to use reddit if lemmy doesn't suit your needs, i mean there's your validation if you need it, it's your life

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

My time on Reddit has dropped substantially since I can't use third-party apps for it anymore, but I still login occasionally for the niche communities that don't exist here, just like you do.

Use whatever website or app you want and don't worry about what some nerds on the internet might think about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

if reddit has a specific use for you that you're unable to find anywhere else, you should utilize reddit and not feel bad about it.

maybe one day, lemmy will be a proper alternative for people in your position, but there's no use trying to stay away from reddit if you're unable to do your job effectively without it. good luck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, there's Libreddit. If you absolutely must browse reddit, consider using Libreddit instead. No interactions though (there's lemmy for that :p).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yep put any of the main social media sites (though not Tumblr, sadly) on Farside and it distributes traffic randomly too which is more polite

https://farside.link/old.reddit.com

And it has a little button in the corner to jump back in

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Frankly I have no good way of using Reddit anymore. I browse certain subs using an RSS reader, but without RiF I have no desire to actually engage with the site.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That is all fair. My take is to lurk on Reddit and post as little as possible without logging in (and using alternative front ends like Libreddit or Stealth when you can). If you need to post, either because you need a quick answer to a question or want to help out someone with a question, do it, but consider posting the content to related communities on federated platforms as much as possible.

The centralized internet is only now being more widely criticized by ...well, not the mainstream, but certainly more people as of late, and continuing to put more and more content onto federated platforms, while putting less and less content onto centralized ones is needed to help balance the scales against the tech giants.

TLDR; Do what you can to stay off of Reddit. Lurk on alternative front ends, and when you do post, consider posting in similar fediverse communities. Try to migrate onto more federated platforms as big tech be evil.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I go to Reddit to learn to be patient with impatient people, while ignoring trolls. These habits have improved my professional habits, helped me acquire new business, and generally improved my performance as an executive.

So I'm quite happy for Reddit to continue existing in it's current form. Usually I log in and answer questions about electronic design for 30 minutes, then log off. Conversations on Lemmy are much more pleasant, but I don't log on to Reddif to meet pleasant people!

In other words, if it's useful to you, then why not use it?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You probably know best

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Honestly, it's cool that you're doing what you can to make the world a better place, and that matters more than anything. I do not support Reddit's politics and policies and I am able to avoid it completely. I feel that is a net positive in the world. You're a nurse. Your job is to help people. If minimizing your Reddit usage helps to reduce Reddit's ad revenue, but using it a little bit still helps you be a better or happier or more sane nurse, then it sounds like that's a good thing. Maybe keep your eyes peeled for alternate growing communities, but I think you're already pretty cool for using Reddit less, but still using it when it helps you make the world a better place in other aspects of your life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Relegate Reddit to specific communities/hobbies/needs. It is what I did.

It is stupid to think Lemmy will replace Reddit to 100% extent. Lemmy has significantly replaced Reddit though for tech, privacy, political and piracy needs.

It is my understanding that even things like anticapitalist beliefs, socialist ideals, and morality itself are also subject to Pareto's principle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Good question imo.

Apart from the fact that your points are valid, they are also connected to reddit being held by a singular entity imo.

  • more users
  • more streamlined
  • more niche stuff
  • more mainstream stuff

As you already stated: reddit monetizes every word you write and everything you write is at risk to being paywalled/removed not because it is political or breaks the rules but because it is helpful.

The amount of harm the corporate social media has caused and will be able to cause in the future is immense.

Being in the medical field may help you understand how important it is to keep people from harm. Some of the people you treat may have been physically harmed by a psychopath. Big companies are known to behave exactly like this. If harming you makes them money, they will.

And besides, you don’t need to leave reddit entirely. You should definitely read the stuff you need there, but you could make it a habit to always try and post helpful advice in the fediverse/on lemmy so that your content stays in case corpo paywall.

Part of contributing to the democratic discourse (like voting) is screaming into the void and waiting for someone to listen. But if youre persistent, people will listen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Considering my career is in IT, have no problem getting work advice from Lemmy lol.

But the other niches are woefully under-represented. I’ve seen other nurses on here, no idea if there is a nursing community on Lemmy. I think posting general questions and advice can help grow a more niche community. But it would take work to do that might not interest the nurses on Lemmy right now.

I’ve been trying to grow [email protected] not a mod there or anything. I’d just like the community to grow so I don’t have to rely on Reddit's fantasy football sub. I deleted my account so I don’t have the ability to comment or ask for advice there anymore, but I do try to post relevant information and game threads for discussion on Lemmy’s community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A lot of people are hung up on Reddit monetising itself, but a nursing subreddit itself is a community canoe sailing alongside major subreddit money making gold encrusted galleons, and to be honest, if you're using Reddit with proper discernment then you're not feeding the beast per se.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I can't imagine why anyone should stop you from going the places you want to go for advice. I know Lemmy frowns upon even Reddit chain linking, but don't factor that in too much, such things aren't even against Lemmy rules. Keep us updated too if you may, we're sorry this is an issue in your hospital.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

use whatever site you want, why care about others' opinions of a website?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You're not wrong. Why would you? Either works or not. You said it yourself, it's work-related. The rest you could probably work around them if sufficiently motivated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

There are things for which there is no Reddit alternative yet. Does it suck you have to use it? Sure. But you aren't evil for using a platform with terrible management for discussing something important to you (especially if it's related to work) when there's no viable alternative. You may try starting a parallel community here, and perhaps it'd turn into something great years from now on, but that's no solution to a need you have right now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I hope you stay at lemmy for some things and go to Reddit for your specific needs. That's how I do it. I still use reddit when I need to go to special communities. But when I'm sitting with my cup of coffee during my work break, I shoot the shit on lemmy. I don't like reddits mobile app, so that's how I ingest social media now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I go to a specific community on my pc and use Lemmy on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You do you. I will say that advice on a lot of these matters is pretty subjective and both reddit and Lemmy subs have strong biases. The fact that you want to return suggests that you likely share the biases of that sub and most advice will be affirming to your mindset. This is one of the big downsides of social media in general. Ideas feed far more off of feelings than facts. I had a bunch of subs that I missed at First on reddit, but after being out of them long enough I don't think it's any real detriment to my life or career. For factual data there are usually better sources and for things like violence in your hospital there may be better local resources than some redditor opinion. I still run search engine queries on reddit for info sometimes, but the loss of active posting chatter has not really impacted me personally other than saving me a bit of time. All that said, just make sure to incorporate fuckspez into your username if you continue on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

No you probably still need reddit. It's OK. :)

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