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The Journal reported executives at SpaceX worried Elon Musk was on drugs after an "unhinged" all-hands meeting in which he slurred and rambled.

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[–] [email protected] 236 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is the way he’s always been and it’s only getting worse.

Employees have always had to manage him not the other way around; a perpetual petulant toddler banging his hands on the table; ruining everything he touches with his Reverse-Midas-Touch so they keep him at bay.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 8 months ago (5 children)

This is increasingly the characterization of so many rich and powerful people.

Soooo weird…

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago

If you have money, then in the business world you have intrinsic value.

When you have enough, you reach the tipping point where it doesn't just need to be the only thing you provide, but it outweighs others ways you hurt the business.

The less your ideas are useful and the more money you hoard, the faster it changes.

It can go quickly downhill when the CEOs wealth is tied to stock price.

And ends disastrously when they go somewhere that workers aren't used to them. Because the CEO was never told they used to be babysat just for their money, they legit believe they're a genius

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (7 children)

You have to think who gets that wealthy and is like "Let's go to work!" You have to be psychotic to have more wealth than you can ever spend and not go fuck off somewhere and enjoy it. I would never go back to a job even if I was running the place, I'd just do whatever I wanted to do for the rest of my life.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We call it the Mierdas Touch.

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[–] [email protected] 144 points 8 months ago (8 children)

At SpaceX, where illicit drug use could jeopardize the billions of dollars of government contracts enjoyed by the defense contractor due to federal regulations, The Journal's reports of Musk's drug use put at risk nearly $1 trillion in assets held by investors, about 13,000 jobs, and the future of the US space program.

And I thought Twitter was going to be his biggest fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And of course, businessinsider doesn't blame the rich guy... they blame the 'snitch'

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 8 months ago (4 children)

We can excuse the racism, the transphobia, and the antisemitism, but we draw the line at drugs!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

That can lose them their security clearance and government contracts, so kind of a big deal.

The racism and transphobia and everything else can be ignored because it doesn't affect their bottom line in the society we live in.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't you see? All of those other things were BECAUSE of the drugs! It's exactly like what happened to Roseanne and her Ambiens!

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

with one executive describing the event to the outlet as "nonsensical," "unhinged" and "cringeworthy."

This is different from normal?

Also:

SpaceX also began cracking down on illegal substances at the company by bringing in drug-sniffing dogs, sources told The Journal.

How much do you want to bet those dogs are never allowed up in the executive suites?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What kind of company has such a bad drug problem that they need to bring in dogs to find it? Absolutely ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd probably be shooting up junk too if my boss was Elon Musk.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

In normal corporate environments I’ve seen people abuse everything from codeine headache tablets to crystal meth.

Not defending Edolf Twitler, I’m just saying it’s not unusual for these environments to be so toxic that people look for ways to manage.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Guys let's not make taking drugs look even worse by association it with that guy

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Drugs are the innocent bystander here.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 8 months ago (7 children)

... Musk's drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, ...

Explains....soooo much. Still an asshole, though.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It’s news sure but is anyone thinking it’s groundbreaking news that Elon musk might be on drugs most of the time?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is the first I've heard of it actually.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (17 children)

The guy was a decent salesman, heavilly empowered by daddy's money and connections, who had a bit of luck, even though he only had one kind of salesmanship technique - the Techbro Brew: heavy on selling "high-tech" and "innovation" as inherently good and always trumphing other considerations - and kept walking the grey legal area between lies, exageration and Fraud.

However he seems to have started believing his own schtick that he's a special golden boy whose farts smell of roses, and here we are now.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Know this: having that amount of money is deeply not normal. None of us could do it. We'd save people. We'd build things that helped instead of giant toys. Billionaires are a type of sociopathy. And this guy's got it bad.

100% tax after 999 million. Full stop.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I will admit, him being on drugs did not occur to me as a possible explanation for his 'taking tesla private' tweet that torpeedoed his networth, but having been confronted by it now I am having a hard time not believing it.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Musk's drug use, which includes LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine, according to people familiar with the matter, is at the center of an extensive new report from The Journal that details how executives at several of the billionaire's companies have struggled to manage his substance use and erratic behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago

And? Its only a crime when regular people do it, for rich people its just 'eccentric'

[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Has there ever been an all-hands meeting where the CEO was not cringeworthy?

I just assume it's the minimum amount of yearly cringe you have to endure to stay employed.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't he been relatively open about his habitual micro and macro dosing of ketamine?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (19 children)

Imagine the power trip that comes from being Elon Musk's Dealer.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (5 children)

His dealer likely doesn’t even know it’s going to Musk.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

What would be scarier is if he wasn't on drugs. Being on drugs means that there is a "normal state" for him to return to.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't he slur and ramble most of the time? I have never heard him make a sentence without stuttering.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which means this must’ve been really bad for it to stand out so much.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Companies perform drug checks for a reason. People who lead large organizations while regularly getting off on drugs are usually the biggest psychopaths around.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Drug tests are just to keep their boots on the faces of the workers. It's disgusting and invasive.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The higher up you go, the less likely it is that you'd be tested for drugs. We could empty board rooms if we insisted on drug testing at that level.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And that reason is to keep insurance premiums down.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Given that SpaceX is a private company, where Musk owns the vast majority of voting rights, I'm not sure what can be done here. The same goes for Twitter, and I doubt Musk is stupid enough to have bylaws in a company he bought 12 months ago that would oust him for drug abuse (although I would fucking love it!)

Tesla, though, is only 21% owned by Musk (assuming Wikipedia is up to date). While it's tight, I imagine the board could request he take a drug test, and if he refuses/fails, call a vote to remove him. Given that Tesla execs have been worried about his unhinged behaviour for years, it could be the blessing they've been hoping for.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think the issue is that SpaceX has government contracts. NASA and the military are probably more likely to be authoritarian about drug use among their contractors. He got in some hot water for smoking a joint in a Joe Rogan episode a few years ago too.

I think it's ridiculous of course. Let people do drugs. If he becomes incompetent then oust him for incompetence. Don't bring drug dogs in, especially since they're really only going to find low-level employees self-medicating while the execs weasel around it.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

These are the same people that let him fire a car into orbit around Mars with an "empty" space suit in the driver's seat.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Wdym "empty"? Did he sneak a person inside or something? I wouldn't put it past the guy.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I really do think he started doing drugs a few years back.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago

He smoked pot on Joe Rogan's show.

He doesn't seem like the sort of person who can have the self-control to stop there. He's try uppers and downers and anything else to make himself feel good now that people are calling him out on his bullshit.

The dude was on top of the fucking world in February 2018 when he launched his car into orbit. In July of that year, he called a guy a pedo because the guy said Elon's toy submarine idea was worse than useless.

If he had kept his dumb mouth shut, we would all still mostly believe in Elon's bullshit myth.

Instead, it's mostly common knowledge that Elon is a narcissistic man baby, and has been for his entire life.

He would rather we didn't know about the emerald mine, but everyone knows. We know he bought his way to every success he's ever had, and that he has zero natural talent.

And that has to drive him mad. So he does drugs and plays video games to escape from reality. A reality where he isn't loved, and is actually viewed as the prime example of the problem with allowing billionaires to exist at all.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (4 children)

He use to do drugs. He still does but he use to too.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess that Marijuana that he awkwardly smoked to be "cool" was a gateway drug to much worse.

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